In this latest installment of the Silmarillion Seminar, find out why “The Apple Doesn’t Fall Far From the Tree”. Episode 28 is now available here, or on iTunes.
Wish I could join the seminar, but I do listen closely.
A few thoughts after listening to “Tuor:”
1) Did Tuor make it to Valinor? Did it not say at the end of “The Darkening of Valinor” that no one made it back across the sea save one: the mightiest mariner of song? That would, I suspect, be Earendil.
2) Discussion of men marrying elves: we hear that this is a big deal, and that Beren and Aragorn had to Do the Heroic Deed in order to Win the Prize whereas all Tuor had to do was basically show up. I am reminded of Legolas’s comment to Imrahil, that obviously not all of Amroth’s people went straight over sea, but apparently some spent some time on shore leave before heading west. This implied, at least to me, that he was saying that the princes of Dol Amroth had elvish blood. Thoughts? Does marrying moriquendi not require as much effort?
3) Maeglin graphically hit the cliff wall on the way down. The only other description we had of this nature as far as I can recall is what Gandalf did to the Balrog of Moria. I will presume there is no reason to read anything into this, especially since Maeglin did not grow wings at the last minute. I also note that Maeglin and Eol the only instance of someone who actually died from falling into a chasm (see: Gandalf, Glorfindel, Balrog of Moria). Perhaps chasms in Middle Earth are very safe places, except when supervised by the Noldor…
In any case, thanks for the opportunity to share my thoughts and for providing this forum for discussion which I can vicariously join in!
Just listened to this episode today – another great one – thanks for sharing.
One question that occurred to me while listening to this though – how come it is Men who seem to score all the seriously hot elf women?? I mean, let’s look at it – Luthien, universally rated at No 1 – marries Beren. Arwen, widely rated at No 2 only to Luthien – ends up with Aragorn. Idril, who is never clearly rated but is described as being “fairer than all the wonders of Gondolin”, so I am guessing she must be in the top 5 easily – and she ends up marrying Tuor. And that’s it (as far as I know) all the Men who marry elf-chicks marry into the top 5,
So my question is, what are those Men doing so right?
All three used AXE body spray of course!
Wouldn’t that land them Dwarven babes?
No such thing as a Dwarven babes. Ever been attracted to a bearded lady? *SHUTTER*
And yet I don’t know that the scent of AXE would attract an Elf…
Perhaps they were the only men smart enough to use elf-harmony.com!
I’d imagine they were all well read on the latest elf-help literature
Oddly many of the Edain married younger women; Beren and Tuor preferred Eldar…
Would Elf-women qualify as being cougars I wonder…They definitely are much older than the men!
Given the time-frame, I think less cougar than sabre-tooth tiger!
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